What they are doing is abusing patriotic music, ideals, and logic.

Example:
“Obama can no more disown Rev. Wright than he can disown the black community.”

It is not so because these people say so.

Example:
They show 4 playing cards saying in capital letters

RACE
RACE
RACE
RACE

bottom line:

These videos and these groups are not as classy as Rove. They say the DNC needs to learn a lesson.

They say this is not symbolic, it is the democratic process.

The democratic process works. Obama won the democratic process for the nomination.

It’s over, folks.
Time to let go.

Carole
http://www.Americans-Away-From-Home.com

and this PUMA group headed by a rovian. how disgusting that people aren’t smart enough to SEE THIS!!!

It’s the Democrat’s election to lose. They have a history of shooting themselves in the foot. If this kind of division continues, the Republicans will benefit.

GIVE IT UP!

O.K., so now we know the truth. Carl Rove did not leave the country. Actually he is at PUMA hdqts. in Crawford, Texas.

Are you saying after all these ‘Unity’ appearances Hillary and Obama (together), there are groups– trying to split the party further down the middle?

The Democrats will shoot themselves in the foot for sure — talk about political drama– this is the understatement for the year.

In short, this Rovian style needs to go– if not, a win for the Democrats in November will be impossible. I wait to see how dysfunctional they will be. http://manchestersquare.blogspot.com

So, how come you PUMA’s haven’t paid off Hillary Clinton’s debt?

The answer to “who benefits” is not Hillary Clinton but John McCain.

These are not Hillary’s groups. Don’t beat her up for them. Beat up the scum who are pretending to be Hillary supporters in order to release spew on Obama.

The bottom line is, you’re all scared sh!tless of Hillary Clinton getting the nomination. But don’t blame her if she does – it will be no one’s fault but Obama’s. He, his ego, his flipflopping, and stark inexperience will all implode from now till convention time.

Cem Kaner, thank you for calling me scum; you exhibit the high minded communication skills of an Obama supporter. Congratulations. I am a PUMA member. I am not racist. I am not a Republican. It doesn’t matter if Hillary concedes; we will not vote for an unqualified, dangerous candidate, and we do not accept the DNCs process of selection over election. Neither Clinton nor Obama gained the necessary delegates to secure the nomination yet, being that the supers do not vote until August and can change their position at any time before then. As Obama flip-flops and abandons the principles of those who voted for him, we know you’re getting scared. You should be. There will be no unity. No deal.

PUMA was not created by the GOP like Donna Brazile would like people to think. It was created by Clinton supporters. On blogs and on a Facebook group “Hillary Clinton supporter 1 Million Strong” I should, I’ve been in that group for about a year. And so has Will Bower the Co-founder of Just Say No Deal who has been making media appearances. PUMA IS and will ALWAYS be run by Clinton supporters. What the DNC has done is undemocratic and we will hold them responsible.

What an amusing blog, for the last week Obama has not known if he is standing on his head or his behind, it is him Mr Flip-Flop who needs to concede and soon too.

He is making fools of the Democratic Party, for helping him along when they have the greatest leader for the free world at their fingertips. For God Sake don’t let her go.

He can’t spend his life with a teleprompter.

Go away Mr Obama before you do any more damage to the Democratic Party.
Let’s bring Hillary back and nominate her, she is needed by her country!!!!

Never in the history of the Democratic party has a primary been this close. In order for the DNC to boost their “selected” candidate, the Rules and Bylaws Committee actually gifted Barack 59 delegates, further, the RBC removed 4 delegate from Hillary. Delegates Hillary earned and fought for. Those also were “gifted” to Barack in order to boost his candidacy. It’s called backroom dealing. In recent history there have been 7 roll calls at the convention. Ted Kennedy had a roll call with under 700 earned delegates, and almost pulled off an upset. Hillary has earned this right and it is the sole purposes of Superdelegates to vote for the most electable candidate when neither one has been able to cross the finish line, as is the case in this primary. Hillary Clinton IS this candidate.

PUMA!

If you want to know why, regardless of what Sen. Clinton says or does, we PUMAs can’t condone the machinations of the DNC, go directly to YouTube and watch “DNC–Fractured Fairy Tales.”
Hear Donna Brazile and Howard Dean in their own UNdemocratic words hijacking the party and dissing the base. I DARE YOU TO POST THIS VIDEO HERE!

It’s obvious that you either did not watch the RBC proceedings, uncut on CSPAN, or did not understand what you were seeing. We are not Kool-Aid-besotted lemmings who fall in line behind destroyers of democracy.

Time will bear out the truth of our movement, and your uninformed, idiotic words will stick in your throat like a hairy bolus. And next time, you’ll be FULLY informed about the American politics before you deign write about the subject again.

And by the way, we despise Rove and his tactics, which have been adopted not by us but by Herr Dean, Brazilla, and the Gang of Losers. And we most certainly have paid down Senator Clinton’s debt. Shows all the more how little you know! PUMA!

Obamazombies get over yourselves. This is the United States you live in where it is within our rights to demand a democratic process. The DNC selection of Obama was one of the most undemocratic actions of our lifetime (next to GW Bush being selected in 2000). Obama has given Clinton supporters every reason to stay the course. His lack of a backbone and lack of work ethic only increases our resolve. Let’s get ready to rumble in Denver!

PUMA!

Oh, and SyndeyJolie, maybe you haven’t heard that us PUMAs have decreased her debt by $10 million in just one week! That is $10 million that did NOT go to the DNC!

Democracy should be allowed to operate. Conventions are not coronations.
Ted Kennedy challenged incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980. He went all the way to the convention with only 760 delegates (approx) well behind President Carter. At the convention he tried getting the delegates to switch their votes to him.

NO ONE TOLD HIM TO LEAVE THE RACE OR CONCEDE.

It is sexism to have tried to push Senator Clinton out of this race.

I have watched this primary closely and I have noted that the Obama supporters in eschewing the needs of citizens for health care for ALL and trying to shut down the democratic process are, in fact, the petty bourgeoisie of our nation.
We here on the fringes (and there are millions of us) will fight for our democracy.

The convention is a convention not a coronation.

Go Hillary and long Live our democracy.

Mary Dalby: Telling a fellow democrat to “give it up” is indicative of your petty bourgeoisie values.

You want a coronation go live in a theocracy. BY the way, your Obama-centric mindset should fit in quite well with his sexist comments and his male dominated religion.

We will never give up in fighting misogyny.

It is Obama who has lost all credibility.

He has managed to radically change positions and effectively lost all credibility with his supporters and the general electorate.
His excuse? We are gun totin’, bible thumpin’ racists, no one was simply listening to him or it is Hillary Clinton’s fault.

Do we really want someone who is unable to take any responsibility his actions to be President? We already had 8 years of that.

We have a credit crisis, in other words, the banks are going belly up, we have massive government and personal debt, we have a free falling dollar, we have inflation, home foreclosures are continuing at record pace, international entities are buying our infrastructure for a song, China is our government bank, we have two wars, sluggish economy, decline in service sector jobs, and impending manufacturing job lay-offs. Iran is launching missiles. Obama claims that Iran isn’t a threat and McCain just wants to “bomb Iran”.

Do you really think Obama and/or McCain is qualified to handle this?

WOW–looks like some people are SCARED that the Messiah can’t win in November….HAHAHAHA!!!

Well, you’re right. He can’t win, and if the so-called Democrats who voted for him in the primaries really wanted a Democrat in the White House, they would have controlled their pig urges and voted for the qualified candidate who could win in November, Hillary Clinton. AND, they would have spoken out when the DNC was clearly trying to rig the election. AND, the African Americans would not have allowed themselves to be used for their votes.

But, they didn’t, so here we are. The Democrats can’t win in November unless Hillary is at the top of the ticket. Meanwhile, the gaffolating flip flopper, obama, is running around the country spending money like a drunken sailor, that was donated by all the useful idiots that were foolish enough to believe all his lies on the campaign trail.

Way to go – you got sucked in by the most typical politician to ever be shoved down the throats of the American people.

In the future, it would perhaps be best to actually research and know who you are voting for. Voting is a responsibility, not a game, not a rock concert, and not a MySpace groupie thing.

What the Obama fans fail to get is that PUMAS love DEMOCRACY. Our disgust with the undemmocratic primary process (which propelled the unqualified, sexist, race baiting, light weight, Obama to the position of “presumptive” nominee) sparked the creation of PUMA. Now that Obama has turned on his own young, idealistic supporters, by changing his policy positions with the political winds, maybe they’ll join PUMA in restoring democracy, and in supporting the legitimate winner – HRC. Or, those who just continue to blindly follow their leader, regardless of his flip-flops may want to start their own party. How about the OSTRICH PARTY. Yes, that’s a good name for them.

1 of 18 million.

What’s wrong? Mr. Unity can’t even unite his own party, let alone the Independents, conservatives, and Democrats?

Her conceding won’t get us PUMAs to jump to Obama’s sinking ship.

Your real problem is Obama. He is not a suitable candidate and is un-electable. The world is waking up to this fact. And, you are afraid. Obama’s record is being exposed for everyone to view and facts cannot be disputed. Obama supporters may claim loudly that these grass-roots groups are Republicans or apply other types of “name calling”, but it will not change the facts that Obama has no record, no experience, no ethics, flip-flops depending on who he is trying to “fool”, and has many suspect acquaintances. He has been aided and abetted by the media with excessively biased coverage to encourage this coronation. The fact is Obama is not qualified to be President. Your problem is with Obama, himself, not Hillary Clinton, not McCain, and not the groups that you mentioned in your article. Our country is in a real mess and we need someone with real qualifications, experience, solutions, and a commitment. We need Hillary Clinton. We do not need Obama.

Please don’t overlook the power of snail mail.

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I’m sorry, John, but did you actually say the primaries yielded a clear winner in Barack Obama? Nothing could be further from the truth. There was no clear winner, as neither candidate won enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. If we truly were the “democratic” party, we would therefore award the nomination to the person who won more VOTES. That person, of course, was Senator Hillary Clinton. Sorry to burst your bubble but the only farce is the idea that BO is the nominee, rather than just the stink bomb we PUMAs all know him to be.

PUMA Just say no deal

We will have an open convention or we will vote McCain ‘08

What’s wrong with you Obama fans? Is EVERYONE that doesn’t support Obama a republican? Get a grip! It’s not Hillary Clinton’s job to get an unqualified person elected POTUS! Not everyone believes that this country should be taken over by a lightweight, do nothing, eloquent speaker – but, um, er, ar, only when there’s a teleprompter available! Hillary Clinton has REAL supporters, REAL democratic supporters that voted for her – 18 million of them! She didn’t have to cheat at the caucuses – she won primaries. She didn’t have the DNC so-called “leaders” pushing and railroading her into the nomination – quite the opposite – they were pushing and railroading her to quit before there was even a clear nominee! There still isn’t a clear nominee! BHO can threaten and bully all the superd’s he likes, but the truth is out there! If you have to bully, threaten, hoodwink and bamboozle people to vote for you, then you are obviously lacking the quality that it takes to be President of the United States! Wake up Obama supporters – he doesn’t care about you or the country – he only cares about himself! Look up into the sky, see the light and join the REAL movement – PUMA! Hillary has raised more money since she SUSPENDED her campaign than the DNC has in its entire bank account! Please I beg of you – ditch the false prophet, support someone who really gives a darn about you and who has the intelligence, the class and the wherewithall to be POTUS! Join Senator Hillary Clinton’s supporters and help a real leader get elected in November! Be a part of real change! GO PUMAS!

Ha ha, so you koolaid drinkers think we are republicans in disguise? LOL
For 34 years I have voted democrat regardless of the candidate, well no more. It will be a cold day in hell before I support Obama. If Hillary is not the nominee, McCain will do fine! He is someone I can RESPECT. Keep the change. PUMA!

This is why people refer to Obama supporters as drinking the Kool- Aid. there is no clear winner yet and wont be until every super delegate casts their vote for EITHER Senator Clinton or Obama. If you dont think so then you dont belong in the American political process. And if you think otherwise and bet on Obama during the primary to be the Democratic nominee go try and cash your bet now and explain to them why they have to pay you now while they are showing you the door.

Another thing you Obots haven’t fathomed is THIS: why would PUMA be a Republican machination? Hell the GOP is praying Clinton doesn’t get the nomination, because they know for sure that if BO is the nominee they are going to serve him his butt for breakfast!

Oh Puuuleeeeease!
If Obama had been able to win this thing fair and square he and his rapt followers wouldn’t be acting like fraidy cats about taking it to the Convention.
I don’t like people who don’t play by the rules – (even politics has some) Hillary and McCain are both decent people with some bedrock principles. Who is Obama? Where is Obama? Anybody know?
It’s Hill or Mac for me.
PUMA Democrat

Hillary is the rightful nominee. She won the popular vote. She has more electoral college votes. Backtrac-barack gamed the caucuses, and even so his delegates only represent three percent of the voting population. The DNC and Obama lied, cheated and stole to get this totally fake nomination, and they’re not going to get away with it! Don’t you have any morals or ethics whatsoever? Get away from these people before your mind becomes polluted!

Barack Obama has questionable judgment, questionable friends and a questionable background. Senator Clinton loves America and its people, and will work hard for us. She is the rightful nominee and we’re letting everyone know it, as you know it!

Please fight for democratic principles and support the true nominee, Senator Hillary Clinton.

Alex01

Look out — the jilted prom dates from hillaryclintonforum.net have discovered this site, and descended on it with all the Hello-Kitty/Warrior-Princess/Winx Club wrath of their righteous cause — which, as they are fond of telling each other, they will NEVER GIVE UP ON because, dammit, THEY WERE PROMISED A MAGIC PONY AND, BY GOD, THE EVIL MANDINKA MAN WHO SPANKED HILLARY CLINTON IN THE PRIMARY ISN’T GOING TO TAKE THEIR MAGIC PONY AWAY.

And if they DON’T get what they want, they’re going to key your car, TP your house and boil your son’s pet bunny on the stove.

Who wants to be the last rapt rat to jump Obama’s sinking ship?

“clinton needs to end this farce.” ??? HA If it was a FARCE noone would be so scared of it! This is what happens when the people rise up and take their POWER back. PUMA will not allow the DNC to be crooked any longer! PUMA is about more than Clinton- it is about keeping TRUE democracy alive. WE ARE PUMA- HEAR US ROAR

And here you go again, intimadation, falsehoods, lies, blaming SENATOR CLINTON for Mr. Obama’s mess? And by the looks of the fright you know this all to be true, the stealing of DEMOCRACY no matter what Hilary says now is NOT GOING TO BE THE BASIS OF THE ELECTION OF ANY PRESIDENT no matter what color he is and we hope the RBC, DNC, Ms.Brazille, Pelosi, Mr. Dean and the rest of the liars, cheaters, stealers of elections, votes and disenfranchisers who are not feeling the pain of no monies for their candidate of choice (not!) prefer. Mr. Obama prooves over and over and over again he is unvetted, inexperienced and a threat to the AMERICAN people (all of them) and the country if he would be elected. HE cannot handle anything, he only wants to control, power for the sake of power is not a new format in politics-sounds more like gangsta activities… Mr. Obama still says nothing and then flip flops on that he is not the one we have been waiting for!

DENVER ROLL CALL HILLARY NOMINEE of the PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE!!! PUMA and JUST SAY NOT DEAL… way to go…for the sake of DEMOCRACY…one person -one vote… no more cheating and caucuses and loosing votes or stealing them from another candidate or changing the rules or intimadating superdelegates… WE THE PEOPLE demand that the POPULAR VOTED PRIMARY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON be endorsed and have a vigourous general election campaign with John McCain.

GO HILLARY make HISTORY be elected by the people because you are ready on day one and know what you are talking about!

“John,” the author of the quote below is delusional, like the “selected” candidate he represents:

“Her first task is to publicly disown the two groups engaged in promoting her as the legitimate Democratic Party nominee. This act will be her first real test of loyalty to Senator Obama and the Democratic Party since her defeat in the Primaries. A defeat she has still failed to acknowledge by conceding. What is her game plan?”

Senator Clinton is one smart, savvy politician. Unlike Senator Obama, she is a tough, tenacious leader. She did not “concede” but only suspended her campaign…as we have consistently tried to explain to the delusional. She has done what she agreed to do, and that is to appear with Obama at some of his rallies.

Do you honestly think for one minute Clinton’s die hard supporters are going to accept this empty suit and throw support his way when the whole “selection” was a sham. Between voter fraud with caucuses and voter manipulation, and disenfranchisement by the DNC, many of the members of the once Democratic Party feel we have been betrayed by our own party. We know as do many observers, that Senator Clinton is the strongest candidate. Wake up people, why do you think, the Republicans were working so hard behind the scenes to discredit her and help anoint Obama. She will be one of the best Presidents this country has ever had.

She had to compete in the primaries with huge handicaps…a biased, sexist media who were backed by big money-Soros and Iran connections of General Electric (NBC and MSNBC) head Jeff Immelt. These two big MSM outlets of CNN and NBC and MSNBC were so “in the tank” for Obama, even the casual observer saw every gossip and hack talking head was following the script sent down from the bosses. Her second handicap was her own party. The DNC and their posse of Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Brazile, Pelosi wanted their Obamaman puppet and they have worked their “cheatin’ ways to get him as the “presumptive nominee”. Well, people are finally beginning to see what we, who have researched and observed. Senator Obama is an inexperienced, unelectable, naive, uninformed man who cannot speak without a teleprompter or a feed in his ear from a handler telling him what to say. Eighteen million voters were not fooled. We bitter, gun-toting, believers know a fake when we see him. Now, how about if we just let this convention be a REAL GENUINE DEMOCRATIC convention.

RunningDog – That name has a Native American sound to it. Maybe you’ve heard about the name given to Obama by Native Americans. They call him Walking Eagle – because he’s too full of s*** to fly.

BTW – The spanking comment – typical of the type of sexist drivel you folks are so fond of spewing – is inaccurate. Check out the numbers. She is the one who did the spanking. Over eighteen million real Democrats supported HRC.

PUMA, baby.

Since when does a democracy take a backseat to anyone or anything. We have already seen two blatent contradictions of democracy, first MI and FL were not counted and then were only half counted. When someone votes it should count period, that is our right given by the constitution. Then they took votes away from Hillary who earned them 100%, thats called theft by definition. Also a direct violation of our constitution. The rules also say the super delegates do not vote until August, and until then neither candidate has hit the target, lets face it Obama is self destructing, he loses more ground to McCain every day. By August I think the democrats will be hoping Hillary steps in and takes the nomination, she was the best candidate after the last primary (all polls and electoral maps reflected this) and the super delegates had one job and that was to pick the best candidate. She had won the last 9 out of 13 primaries, but due to dirty politics and backroom deals many delegates were coerced into supporting Obama. Well today is that day that democracy reigns, and groups like the Denver Group and PUMA have done the American people a huge favor, they make sure our rights are being looked after and that the 18 million people, more than Obama got, have a say in this DEMOCRATIC process. This is the very thing our country was found on!! So those saying we dont have to follow the guidelines that are set in how a convention works then maybe they should move out of the USA and go to a dictatorship and then what the government says overrules the will of the people! Last I checked this is what makes this the greatest country in the world..

BHO has won squat – the delegate race is extremely close and since this one will be about who the supers choose, lets look at them.

70%+ of the supers that supposedly support BHO were bought off, or have their own self interests (over those of the American people) as a priority.

With all his flips, and flops, and down right lies, the space under the bus has become very over crowded now that he has tossed even a large percentage of his own base under it. That base is pissed and some now also looking for somewhere else to go.

PUMAs are not Republicans – they are the true Dems who are disgusted with the way that BHO and the DNC seem to think they can just bribe, cheat, lie and intimidate to coronate a nominee that does not speak for, or represent, the marjority of the Dem Party.

To the pleas being made by BHO and the DNC to just get over it, shut up, and fall in line for the sake of a false perception of untiy….PUMAs say No Deal.

Too much water under the bridge at this point. Even if Sen. Clintom did concede…PUMAs would still be saying Nobama, No Deal, No $$$ to BHO or to the DNC.

Plan A = Hillary.
Denied that,
Plan B = whoever has the best chance of beating BHO..and for mist of us that will mean a vote for McCain.

So BOTs, DNC and anybody else in the tank for Obama – PUMAs are here and not going away – get over it.

The DNC has ignored sexism and the bias in this campaign. they let the Clinton legacy get trashed and they will pay. end of story.

Stop trying to blame Senator Clinton for party division. We PUMA members refuse to accept the dirty thievery of the DNC. This is NOT the democratic party anymore.

I own my vote, not Senator Clinton. I will do everything in my power to end Ob’s coronation.

Why are you socialists so afraid of us???? We refuse to accept having a socialist shoved on us. We own our vote and we intend to use our vote for the betterment of our country. Obama is a liar, a socialist, and I will NEVER support him, his thugs, nor his filp-flopping ego driven desire to be king.

This blog is clearly run by an Obomanot trying to once again decree that people not agreeing with Obama should give up.
How desperate of you to suggest Senator Clinton should disown members of these groups. May I remind you it is YOUR candidate who discards people under buses, not Senator Clinton.
These groups want a true democracy as much as they want Senator Clinton in the White House.
Obama is slow in learning that not everyone can be bought and not everyone can be bullied. He has a few hostages at the moment, yes, but he will not take the entire country hostage, too many people care too much to letthat happen

Never in the history of the Democratic party has a primary been this close. In order for the DNC to boost their “selected” candidate, the Rules and Bylaws Committee actually gifted Barack 59 delegates, further, the RBC removed 4 delegate from Hillary. Delegates Hillary earned and fought for. Those also were “gifted” to Barack in order to boost his candidacy. It’s called backroom dealing. In recent history there have been 7 roll calls at the convention. Ted Kennedy had a roll call with under 700 earned delegates, and almost pulled off an upset. Hillary has earned this right and it is the sole purposes of Superdelegates to vote for the most electable candidate when neither one has been able to cross the finish line, as is the case in this primary. Hillary Clinton IS this candidate.

PUMA!

Posted by SadStateOfAffairs | July 13, 2008, 1:22 am

I agree.

The Democratic Party and Obama split the party by its undemocratic actions uo to and on May 31st. We own our votes, we don’t give them away. The DNC/RBC did just that on that fateful Saturday. We will remember in November.

Actually we are showing our patriotism and loyalty to this country by questioning an illegitimate nominee like Obama. Part of being an American is to question the leadership. We are doing that and rightfully so! I am proud of the PUMAs online and offline. They are the heart and soul of the Democratic Party which is being led like lambs to the slaughter by the likes of Dean, Brazille, Pelosi, Reid and most especially Obama. He is a fraud, a liar, exhibits bad judgement as well as narcisstic tendencies. The presidency is only about him and not about the people.

Hillary’s campaign was about the people. She cares about the 18 million folks that voted for her but realizes we are anything but little sheep who are going to fall in line! She understood all along that we are first loyal to our country and second loyal to a party that told us they don’t need the base.

Thank the Democratic Party and Obama, they told us to stay home because they can win the election without us. Well some of us are sraying, some of us are voting for a third party candidate and some of us like myself are voting for McCain.

As a navy veteran I know and understand when he commanded that Naval Squadron and developed them into a strong fighting force, what he and the squadron did to win a Meritorius Unit Commendation, as I have two of them. It shows superior leadership. It takes unity in a command to be awarded this award. It is hard work and not for the faint of heart.

SD:

Why do you think anyone is afraid of you? Most people just think PUMAs are fringe-nuts with a grievance case.

Yes, we all know you “own your vote” and you will “never give up” and, dammit, the evil DNC (and Hillary’s own reps on the Rules Committee who voted to stop her from rigging the primary), aren’t going to get away with disrespecting you.

That’s nice. Have a cookie.

Oh, and if you have a beef with socialists, you shouldn’t be a Democrat. And you CERTAINLY shouldn’t have a problem with Barry, who’s turning hard to starboard these days.

John, to use your own words, “This act will be her first real test of loyalty to Senator Obama and the Democratic Party since her defeat in the Primaries.”

Puma and JSND are the VERY product of “loyalty”. We believe in country before party. We are loyal to one thing and one thing only. Democracy in the United States of America. We believe in putting experienced, vetted, American loving politicians in the position of POTUS. Politicians who have America’s best interest at heart. It would be nice for once to listen to Barack supporters talk about his accomplishments. In case you don’t know, he has two pieces of legislation. #1-Legislation to assist Africa. #2-Named a post office. Other than that, he has done nothing for no one but himself. He acquired his state senate seat by removing those who ran against him. Democratic? Hardly, he is 180 degrees opposite of democratic. The majority of PUMA’s are long term democratic loyalists, but when the democratic party becomes undemocratic, they throw all rights to loyalty out the window. The DNC is responsible for the birthing of the PUMA movement. Roll Call! Denver!

Plan A-Hillary
Plan B-McCain

Hillary needs to stay in!
Obama is knocking himself out!
On Top Of the fact the DNC voilated the rules for Him!
Hillary needs to Stay right where she is at So Denver she Can Be the Legal Nominee as she should be right NOW!NO BODY WANTS FRAUD MAN that ha any Common snese!!
Black folks want a respectable Black Man to represent them not a Fraud a Coward an irrisponsible idiot!

Gosh, Hillary just can’t do anything right in the eyes of Obama’s blind followers. She has publicly done everything she could do and should do to “unite” the party. Unlike you silly Obama supporters, we have a mind of our own. It is not Hillary Clinton’s fault that your silly candidate cannot change our minds. If he had real policies, real positions, a real commitment to America, we might be able to look past the shady machinations that have made him the presumptive nominee and support him. But, since he has become the nominee he has abandoned his primary campaign promises and flip flopped on NAFTA, FISA, public financing, not putting his family in front of the camera, the list goes on. And, yes, I know that politicians generally do this for the GE, but his whole platform was that he is a different kind of politician. And, of course, we Hillary supporters knew all along that he was an empty-suit…but, when will all of you wake up??? There is still time to nominate a Democrat who can WIN and fulfill her promises. All it would take is for you to open your eyes.

These moron Obamabots really believe if Hillary were to formally concede, that all of us PUMAS would “fall-in-line”??? Shows just how delusional they truly are! What does Obama do at these rallies/fundraisers – pass out the KOOL-AID so you are good and zonked out so when he speaks you hear harps playing and angels singing??? LOL!!! You Obamabots are truly unbelievable!!

Those of us in JustSayNoDeal and Puma groups stand for DEMOCRACY!!! Something the DNC is just forgetting about! The Democratic Party is now the MAFIA PARTY!!! Strong-arm superdelegates to support Obama! Strong-arm Hillary into dropping out of the race! Strong-arm Clinton delegates to become Obama delegates! Threaten Clinton delegates who refuse to “fall-in-line” with having their delegate rights stripped from them!! Oh yeah, it’s the NEW MAFIA PARTY and I want no party of it!!!

HILLARY CLINTON IS THE REAL WINNER IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD!! SHE SHOULD BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT AND WHAT A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT SHE WILL BE!!!

Resorting to name calling, threatening, hurling insults has been the hallmark of the Obama supporters from day one. Just as they chanted “no debate” after their fearless leader looked very fearful during and after the ABC debate, Obamakins continue to try to inhibit and diminish any kind of rational discourse about Obama’s qualifications and flawed candidacy. In RunningDogLackey’s comment “Senator Obama is running hard to starbord these days”, the key phrase is “these days”. He’ll flip or maybe, flop, depending on whom he trying to pimp his policies to at the particular time.

I’m actually sorry for some of the Obama supporters – those who actually knew Obama’s stated stand on issues, and genuinely believed in him. What dissappointment they must feel. As for the others – the trustfund babies, with little life experience and less common sense, just consider your misplaced loyalty to the flawed Annointed One a well learned life lesson.

Party Unity My Ass!!!

I’m a P.U.M.A. member. I have never liked Obama nor have I trusted him from the first time I heard his “borrowed” rhetoric. I don’t fall for that empty rhetoric.

I’m a pragmatist and have been an independent voter for all my voting life, voting for both republicans and dems for offices up and down the ticket.

Hillary has noting to do with P.U.M.A. herself. Her staying in the campaign has nothing to do with it/us. From the beginning MOST of us were anti-Obama because we did research on him and found him to be an unacceptable cndidate.

Almost anyone running against Obama would be our preference. It just so happens that Hillary is a very astute, informed, vetted, and wonderful candidate.

We would be doing this (P.U.M.A.) for anyone who was opposing him in the primaries.

It just so happens Hillary won our hearts and our minds.

So, don’t blame her.

Blame Obama who is a change monger (changes his mind a LOT) so no one really knows where he stands on issues or where he will next week.

He also REGRETS a lot of his desisions from Rezko and his land purchase to having his daughters on TV.

If he were president, he would make grave decision four our country and then REGRET them later.

You can’t take back a mess you make by regretting it later.

Look at Iraq.

NO Obama!

NO THANKS!

I voted for Obama before I voted against him. (what I hope his supporters will be saying).

Oh RunningDog — I think it’s pretty obvious that its YOU who is doing the ‘pouting’ because you aren’t getting what your boy Backtrack-Barack promised during the primaries. Sucks to have been suckered so easily, doesn’t it?

You know as well as the rest of us do that Barack is the “nominee” only because he cheated during the caucuses, as proved by the fact that Hillary came out ahead in the popular vote. That kind of treachery (as is the way of the Chicago style politicians) may be acceptable to you, but for the rest of us that believe in core democratic principles, it just don’t fly.

You may support Obama for whatever reason, but to the rest of us he is a Republican, with just a D behind his name.

I was a Democrat for 40 years worth of elections and a substantial donor to the Democratic Party. NO MORE. I have resigned and become an independant.

This is not About Hillary Clinton. This is about a DNC that thinks they can do whatever they like and we are supposed to shut up and accept it and oh yeah…keep donating. The primary season was a fraud and a joke. Senator Obama was NOT elected he WAS selected by the DNC as far back as 2004. There are numerous incidents of fraud and intimidation at the caucusus (which are just ludicrous anyway.) It is also historical that the DNC & Dem Party NEVER, and that’s right, NEVER pressured a candidate to leave the race or pressured Super Delegates to commit before the convention in any year of the party. They wanted CLinton out and were determined to canonize Obama. Call me whatever you will but the DNC has no one to blame but themselves. Had Hillary Clinton lost fairly, I would lick my wounds and vote for the party candidate. She did not lose and the whole primary was stacked against her.

This was a “Obama and Not CLinton” conspiracy and they thought we were all too stupid to get it.

If Barack Obama is the nominee (which I consider to be an illegitimate and fraudulent outcome) I will vote for John McCain. If anyone had ever told me in my 58 years that I would vote for a Republican I would have called them a damn liar.

I am committed to seeing Barack Obama defeated and I will spend every day for as long as it takes to see that Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Donna Brazil get what’s coming to them. The Democratic party leadership is a sham and should be so embarrassed they never leave their houses without sacks over their heads.

So, I am for “Puma & Just Say No Deal” and any other group that is making an effort to return the Democratic Party back to the voters. WE will neither give in nor forget.

Obots: Hillary will most likely take the convention by storm. You have your candidate, and as explained by the various comments, we have the best.

If Obama should win at convention, McCain will be our next president.

I refuse to vote for a candidate that has a questionable background and friends. I’ll vote for the war hero that loves his country and is a war hero who supports our troops.

Please come join us and say “Just No Deal” . Always room for more. And BTW our movement is growing everyday. PUMA

There is a big big falsehood going around to ease Obama supporters…that is, that PUMA and the DENVER GROUP is Karl Rove and the REPUBLICANS. NO. It is not. I can speak since I am a member of both.

Just the facts:

1) Hillary Clinton did not have a 20 year relationship with the 18 Millions of Voters who voted for her. She is a Public Servant so she really cannot denounce the Public.

2) Hillary Clinton did not cause the issues which those groups who supported and support her took up grass roots movements to stand against the Democratic Party in order to stop Mysogyny.

3) Barack Obama has done nothing to alleviate the real issues which his campaign caused, his campaign allowed to occur again and again on national cable television and radio. He has never been a leader.

4) So, more of your threats are not going to make the rest of us who see the trees in the forrest stop using our First Amendment Rights. If Hillary Clinton is forced to in any means denounce us, we will know it was a Hostage Situation.

Just someone else telling Clinton what she needs to do. Get real!

This is not about her anymore. This is about democracy.

Is Clinton the best Candidate? Yes

Is McCain better than Obama? Yes

Are republicans running PUMA? No, why would they when they want Obama to be the nominee as they know they can beat him. The info they will be dropping about Obama before election will take away any hope democrats have of winning back WH. There is no doubt they are saving things that are brought up in articles all the time about an October surprise.

Is Clintonaffiliated with these groups? No, she is doing what she promised…backing Obama.
Do we have to follow her? Not at all. We respect her, we know she is pressured but we cannot agree to follow her to the Obama camp.

It is bigger than her not being the nominee. It is about the DNC corruption, the democracy we are fighting for, a man that is not vetted yet is up for the most powerful job in the world.

Do your research and you will find the mission of PUMA, you will find that groups have paid off in less than a week $10 mil dollars of her debt as of yesterday, haven’t heard about today’s totals.

You will also find that the issues he got your votes on have now a new direction because he needs others votes besides yours. You are no longer important.

Wyoming X Dem:

You are a Presidential Member (1,000+ posts since March!) at hillaryclintonforum.net, which entitles you to your opinion, a cool “bucking bronco” avatar and all the conspiracy theories you can swallow.

Hillary is the most powerful Democrat in America, the wife of a popular former President, a sitting Senator, a highly respected politician and no stranger to the worst kinds of strong-arm politics, gutter infighting and behind-the-scenes manipulation. Arkansas and New York aren’t exactly Narnia.

Hillary is the DEFINITION of steamroller machine politics. She had the money, the consultants, the organization, the stature, the poise and the buzz. She had triangulation, deflection, surrogate attacks and pandering down to a science.

Yet, you insist on telling me that she was somehow outmaneuvered by Howard Dean, a first-term Illinois Senator and the DailyKos.

That PUMA don’t hunt. You are selling the fiction that Helpless Hillary was overpowered by the Evil Mandingo Man — a popular motif in the Harlequin Romances, but not exactly shrewd political analysis.

Which is why the only possible conclusion is that PUMA and the Denver Group are Republicans who want to destroy Democratic unity and submit Americans to yet another George Bush Presidency.

PUMA is a Republican shadow group manipulating voters who already feel manipulated.

They call themselves Party Unity My Ass.

But what that means to their benighted membershipt of voters who feel victimized is Please Use Me Again.

Uh-oh. It’s happening. PUMAs are beginning to realize whose leash they’re on now.

Watch out for loud denials of a Karl Rove/GOP hand in the “Hillary was a victim” narrative. If you see the words “racism,” “sexism,” “misogyny” “arrogance” or “caucus thuggery,” you have already tuned into the Disinformation Network.

HILLARY FAILED TO CHANGE THE RULES AND GAME THE OUTCOME OF THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES. That is all.

No, what really happened was Obama with the cooperation of the media, did manage to change the rules of the game, when he was annouced the winner without enough primary votes. For three long months all that was heard from Obama supporters and the media was what a travesty it would be if super delegates picked the nominee. Where were those voices when they did. Why is Obama so scared to follow the rules of the democratic party, when no one candidate has enough primary votes. That is what is dividing the party. We just don’t want another Bush/Gore, votes count. If he follows the rules he should still win.

Hey, I’m all for Hillary losing at the convention. No argument there.

There is really no way to prove to the Obamabots that we are NOT republicans creating chaos.

As I said, I’m an independent voter who supports Hillary.

2nd choice if she isn’t the nominee is John McCain because he is a true patriot, is well known and vetted, is a moderate republican who is generally very fair and open-minded.

There could be a few repubs who have joined our ranks but I don’t think many because they’d rather run against Obama than Clinton.

These accusations (such as we are repubs) are the reason that Obamabots support him. They assume and take for granted many things without really researching and thinking rationally.

Thus their blind support for Obama.

As far as I’m concerned, you can keep the change!

Plan A Hillary
Plan B McCain

Bots, repeat after me:

I voted for Obama before I voted against him!

Keep chanting it and you will see the light!

Vote RePUMAcan!

Join the swelling ranks of America’s self-defeating aggrieved parties.

Teach everyone who ever made fun of you in high school a lesson they’ll never forget!

@ RunningDogLackey
Quote “Hillary was overpowered by the Evil Mandingo Man — a popular motif in the Harlequin Romances, but not exactly shrewd political analysis.”

First of all, I am too busy fighting for Democracy, to waste my time reading Harlequin romance stories!

I won’t ask how you are familiar with the character…
Secondly I am no ones Lackey!

Thirdly, I own my vote, I am sorry you gave yours away to the unvetted and selected one.
I have never been anything but a Democrat. I have voted party line always.
I have woken from my slumber and see the New Democratic Party for what it really is. Crooks and thugs. I am hopeful that we can recapture the party of old. The party that fought for democracy and wanted every vote counted. Unlike the selected one. That silenced millions of voters by refusing to have a revote in Fl. and Mi.

Hillary has no power over me. I am a freethinking person. I chose to research the candidates. I found obama to be unelectable and inexperienced, not to mention he turned out to be a race baiter, and is willing to take his “selected status” earned by Misogyny, DNC strng arm tactics and media bias. Not my idea of a true leader.
He maybe proud of this but I expect more from a President. That is why if obama makes the final cut in this Mr. America Beauty Contest, I will be forced to vote McCain. He is a patriot and will not sell America to the highest bidder.
I no longer play party politics, this is change you can believe in. It is the new American Politics. I thought obama would like this, he said he was all for new politics in America. We needed a change in the way we did things in Washington. Well party politics got us in this mess. PUMA, NoDeal and TRUE Democracy will get us out.
PUMA
Hillary ‘08
McCain ‘08
Nobama ever!

I don’t understand…
If these people refuse to vote for Obama, then what is their leverage?
What is the threat?
Why should this roll call happen in the way they want?
They are useless to the party and this movement!
And not very bright…although, I must say, while the video is 90% misleading, it was a nice design.

Jo said this:
“2nd choice if she isn’t the nominee is John McCain because he is a true patriot, is well known and vetted, is a moderate republican who is generally very fair and open-minded.”
Obviously
Out
Of
Touch.
And uh, John McCain is the biggest misogynist EVER!!! Whoa, sweety!
Since you are voting for McCain, why should the democratic party give a crap about what you say?

PUMA is a band of racist nasty nuts who would prefer a vile misogynist who is America’s number one flip-flopper to a black man, no matter how clearly he ennunciates his policies. Why the Hell do you think the power brokers in the DNC acted? They did it because they knew HRC & Bill had too much baggage & would get slaughtered by the RNC come the election. She still is facing a court case!
PUMA is being manpulated by the Repugs & they are too stupid to see that.
If Bill C. had shut his mouth, maybe she would have won. If Mark Penn had been sacked, maybe she could have won. But none of it mattered. Her whole history along with Bill’s would have thrown her under the Straight Talk Express come November. The DNC did what it had to do to avoid another defeat. PUMAS are intelligent? Just raving nutters showing how stupid they are!

Wow! I just went to the puma site and I am in disbelief. That is just petty and sad… whoever the guy was that created it was obviously hoping to make a hookup site were him and his buds could prey on some poor, emotionally vulnerable Hillary cougars, but instead, he opened a Pandora’s box of obama bashing, cat whining and paw/anus/paw licking. I hope it all somehow backfires…. shame on you all pumas B-ROCK HEUSSAIN OBAMA 08!

p.s. I gonna start an anti-puma website to counter raise what you raise!

John,

I thank you for your informative message. It has given me the inspiration to continue the in-person work of registering more voters, knocking on more doors, and meeting more Democrats who want to WIN this election.

Grandma4Obama

As a delegate who pretty much has the power to make or break it for Obama, I will affirm at this moment that I will be casting my vote for Senator Barack Obama. I trust his judgement. He will move this country forward, and not divide us. I congratulate Senator Hillary Clinton on a well-run race. My daughters have two role-models now. The thing is that as I make my way to Denver, I don’t want to be a part of divisive politics. I am tired of it. It is time we get our acts together and move on. This was a well-fought, well-run race. No one can deny that Hillary Clinton would have been a great candidate, and I would support her just as I do Sen. Obama, but he is the Presumptive Nominee. As one of the people who my constituents voted for to represent them and be their voice in Denver, I will cast my vote for Sen. Obama. If any group has a problem with that, then I am truly sorry. I have made my choice. The people of my state made a choice. I am one of the voices for the people.

TO CLINTON, IF YOU ALLOW THIS DIVISIVENESS TO CONTINUE, A MCBUSH WIN IS SURE TO HAPPEN. THIS IS WHY, YOU WOULD NOT GET THE VOTE NEEDED TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY EITHER. YOU WOULD BE HATED AND YOUR LEGACY WILL BE TRASH. TELL THOSE WHO CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT THE PATH IN WHICH THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED TO PUT THEIR ANGER INTO REALITY. THE REALITY IS YOU NOR “THEY” WILL GET IN THE W…HOUSE IN 2009. SO HELP SUPPORT OBAMA WHO HAS THE RIGHT JUDGEMENT AND WHO CAN WIN. SPLITTING THE PARTY MEANS A WIN FOR MCB. IF YOU NOR YOUR SO CALLED FOLLOWERS, CANNOT SEE THAT,YOU WOULD NEVER BE IN A POSITION TO WIN.